What did you do with your tank(s) today?

sir_keith

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Picked up the microworms culture last night. I traded some susswassertang for a deli container portion. I checked the culture this morning and the sides and lid were covered. Definitely time to divide into multiple containers. Fed some to the Redhead tapajo fry and the juvenile multies. The Sumbu dwarves didn't appear interested.
I had a microworm factory going on in my fish room years ago when I was breeding wild angels. You have to keep on top of the cultures and split them regularly, which can get tedious, but otherwise they are a great source of highly nutritious live food for the little ones.
 

DMD123

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Yes, they are. How many did you get?
I picked up 6 of the corydoras sterbai. I liked the pattern on them a lot and I was surprised to find a tank full at AP. I think they just got them in and I had stopped at the right time.
 

DMD123

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Did a light gravel vac and water change to the six garage tanks. Saw my SAE dead... I wasn’t happy with the stock they had of these at AP. In fact there was a dead one in the tank. I will likely try to obtain a group from a different source.
 

sir_keith

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Did a light gravel vac and water change to the six garage tanks. Saw my SAE dead... I wasn’t happy with the stock they had of these at AP. In fact there was a dead one in the tank. I will likely try to obtain a group from a different source.
Have you tried PetSmart? If memory serves they were only about $1.50 each; they were small-ish but healthy. When I was stocking up I typically bought 6-8 at a time.
 

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Have you tried PetSmart? If memory serves they were only about $1.50 each; they were small-ish but healthy. When I was stocking up I typically bought 6-8 at a time.
Ive visited the ones in Tacoma and Lakewood. Found the Chinese and golden algae eaters, no SAE.
 

sir_keith

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Ive visited the ones in Tacoma and Lakewood. Found the Chinese and golden algae eaters, no SAE.
Mine all came from PetSmart in SIlverdale, where they seem to get a new batch in every week. You could try giving them a call...
 

Orthopod

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Changed water on the 3 smallest tanks I have 180, 120 and 50 - I do anywhere from 65 to 80% water changes. luckily only all 3 of the big ones are on automatic changers - I used to lose a day a week doing water changes. Life is better now, lol.
 

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My angels were back at the spawning game but this time I wonder if they actually got a fertilized batch. The spot of choice was on the mag float. They didn’t eat the eggs this time and have been guarding the spot. I removed most of the other fish except two platies, which I will pull later. Hopefully this doesn’t stress out the angels. I need to put a foam cover over the Aquaclear filter intake.

If the batch is viable and hatch, I will raise it out and let the parents be until I can harvest a batch of fry. If they don’t succeed Iplan on keeping the marble female in the 46 bowfront and rehome the male which I think is a leopard type.
 

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I had moved out the fish this morning before lights came on and it was a bit dark still so the angels did not stress too much. They are still guarding the eggs and Im not seeing them turn white so those are good signs. Wasn’t planning on any kids but it might be fun to hatch out a batch. Will wait a couple days since this will change some restocking plans if I am raising out fry.
 

sir_keith

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This is a cut-and-paste from a message that I posted nearly a year ago for another FishBox member whose angels had recently spawned, and was asking 'Now what?'...

Now comes the hard part. Angelfish fry are more sensitive than just about any other cichlid- possibly with the exception of discus- and fry mortality will be high, even under the best of circumstances. There are two main issues. (1) Diet. The little angels are tiny, too small to eat newly hatched brine shrimp, so infusoria is the food of choice early on. Culturing infusoria is easy (search online), but it takes some time. Start now. Microworms are the next option; you can buy seed cultures on eBay. (2) Water chemistry. Little angels are extremely sensitive to dissolved metabolites, more so than just about any other freshwater fishes. The optimal setup is a bare tank- no substrate, no decorations, nothing- and at least 50% water changes every day. When I was raising angels I did 50% water changes two or three times every day. It sounds radical, but experience has shown that's what works best.

For the best yield of viable fry, removing the eggs from the parents early on and raising the fry in bare, pristine tanks is the way to go. But there is nothing quite like watching an angelfish pair raise their fry, and seeing the little angels sprout their wings is magical.

Don't expect to succeed the first time around. But in all my years of fish keeping, there is nothing quite like raising your own angels. Good luck. :)

This was my favourite pair of F1 angels, raised from a tank-raised black male and a wild-caught Peruvian female. Black progeny reappeared in the next generation, as expected, but they were as aggressive as wild-caught fishes, which was not expected.

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DMD123

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Thanks for the info @sir_keith, so far the parents seem to be working together well and guarding the eggs. Im dying to take pics but dont want to disturb the new parents so Im restraining myself.

I did sneak into the tank and put a foam pre-filter over the Aquaclear intake. Will check on the parents when lights come on. Hopefully they didn’t get upset.
 
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DMD123

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My little 46 gallon community bowfront is a mess of activity, lol. With 11 monk tetra there is a lot of activity but add 6 hyper cory cats and its just a dizzying display. I haven’t had a chance to see what the plecos are doing but hopefully the algae levels on the glass will be kept in check. I am still on the lookout for a group of SAE to add. I noticed my centerpiece wood needs something to eat the stuff growing on it. Anyway this one is kind of a fun tank but soon will get my focus back on my cichlid tanks.
 

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Well the eggs were white so I separated the angels and will keep the marble female that got moved into the 46 bowfront. I will rehome the other one that was a rescue.
 

fishguy1978

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This is a cut-and-paste from a message that I posted nearly a year ago for another FishBox member whose angels had recently spawned, and was asking 'Now what?'...

Now comes the hard part. Angelfish fry are more sensitive than just about any other cichlid- possibly with the exception of discus- and fry mortality will be high, even under the best of circumstances. There are two main issues. (1) Diet. The little angels are tiny, too small to eat newly hatched brine shrimp, so infusoria is the food of choice early on. Culturing infusoria is easy (search online), but it takes some time. Start now. Microworms are the next option; you can buy seed cultures on eBay. (2) Water chemistry. Little angels are extremely sensitive to dissolved metabolites, more so than just about any other freshwater fishes. The optimal setup is a bare tank- no substrate, no decorations, nothing- and at least 50% water changes every day. When I was raising angels I did 50% water changes two or three times every day. It sounds radical, but experience has shown that's what works best.

For the best yield of viable fry, removing the eggs from the parents early on and raising the fry in bare, pristine tanks is the way to go. But there is nothing quite like watching an angelfish pair raise their fry, and seeing the little angels sprout their wings is magical.

Don't expect to succeed the first time around. But in all my years of fish keeping, there is nothing quite like raising your own angels. Good luck. :)

This was my favourite pair of F1 angels, raised from a tank-raised black male and a wild-caught Peruvian female. Black progeny reappeared in the next generation, as expected, but they were as aggressive as wild-caught fishes, which was not expected.

IMG_2096.jpg
I recognize that post :rofl. Yup, eggs and wigglers are easy. After that good luck.
 

fishguy1978

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I have some Ken's krill pellets and some other Ken's large pellets. The H.Notatus is the only one large enough to even swallow them so I crush them most of the time when feeding. Today, I doled out a serving for each tank and pre soaked them. One krill pellet for the redhead tapajo fry and they didn't turn it down.
 

DMD123

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I recognize that post :rofl. Yup, eggs and wigglers are easy. After that good luck.
I thought it was you, lol.

Im not even sure if the second angel is even a male. Seemed to go through the motions of passing over the eggs like it was fertilizing them but the entire batch was white. I wasn’t wanting to raise out anything but would have tried if they were for real. Now that its done, I have my keeper and a few fish to rehome. Then I need to move a few fish around and my next cichlid project begins....
 

sir_keith

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I thought it was you, lol.

Im not even sure if the second angel is even a male. Seemed to go through the motions of passing over the eggs like it was fertilizing them but the entire batch was white. I wasn’t wanting to raise out anything but would have tried if they were for real. Now that its done, I have my keeper and a few fish to rehome. Then I need to move a few fish around and my next cichlid project begins....
You have two females. Female angels are notorious for pseudo-spawning behaviour in the absence of males.
 

DMD123

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You have two females. Female angels are notorious for pseudo-spawning behaviour in the absence of males.
Previous to this the larger leopard angel would eat the eggs of the marble that would lay them. The larger leopard angel never has laid eggs for me or dropped tube to really be able to sex it. But now with this unfertilized batch of eggs I have confirmed proof of female. Appreciate all the info along the way @sir_keith, your experience with angels has been a great help.
 

cjag

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WC's on all my tanks this morning. That includes 75g community, 40b shellies, and 10g CPO cray tank. Also wringing out some gunk out of all my pre filter sponges.

N. similis are finally darkening and showing some adult coloration. Will post pics later when the lights come on.
 
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