Through the wall / My Fish Room

fishguy1978

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Playing with the new phone camera.
The new Liberifer is starting to come out when I'm in the room.
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These 2 have been cleaning the rock to spawn
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DMD123

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The rainbows in breeding dress really look good! All the fish are looking good.
 

fishguy1978

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Cut the silicone on the 90g so now it's 5 pieces of glass. I'm going to try resealing it. Just trying to figure out what silicone I'm going to use. I would prefer black and on the shelf locally but I think I will have to order.
 

DMD123

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5 out of my 6 tanks have the black silicone and its my favorite. It hides the bit of algae that can grow along the seam and it does not discolor when certain medications are used.

I know its not a fun thing to do, but look forward to your updates and the finished project.
 

sir_keith

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...5 out of my 6 tanks have the black silicone and its my favorite. It hides the bit of algae that can grow along the seam and it does not discolor when certain medications are used...

It's funny how style changes over the years, even in fish tanks. In the pre-silicone days, tanks all had shiny stainless steel frames- and matching hoods- and the glass was held in place by a relatively thick layer of black gooey stuff that hardened over time. Problem was, the glass would push the black stuff out slightly when you filled the tank, and once it hardened in place, it wouldn't form a tight seal again if you stored the tank without water for a while. So re-sealing these tanks, always a hit-or-miss prospect at best, became a fact of life.

Silicone changed all that; the tanks were now light, maintenance-free, and cheap, and they replaced the old framed tanks in no time at all. The clean lines culminated in totally frameless tanks, which are pretty but look fragile, at least to me.

Now the trend is going towards black silicone, which gives the tank a sleek look, as if it has a very thin frame. I don't have any tanks like that, but I like them very much. A black-silicone tank with low-iron glass? Hell yeah. Sound familiar anyone?

I wonder what the next trend will be, although I must say that if I had one of those old stainless-steel-frame tanks it would have a place of honor in my fishroom. :)

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fishguy1978

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It's funny how style changes over the years, even in fish tanks. In the pre-silicone days, tanks all had shiny stainless steel frames- and matching hoods- and the glass was held in place by a relatively thick layer of black gooey stuff that hardened over time. Problem was, the glass would push the black stuff out slightly when you filled the tank, and once it hardened in place, it wouldn't form a tight seal again if you stored the tank without water for a while. So re-sealing these tanks, always a hit-or-miss prospect at best, became a fact of life.

Silicone changed all that; the tanks were now light, maintenance-free, and cheap, and they replaced the old framed tanks in no time at all. The clean lines culminated in totally frameless tanks, which are pretty but look fragile, at least to me.

Now the trend is going towards black silicone, which gives the tank a sleek look, as if it has a very thin frame. I don't have any tanks like that, but I like them very much. A black-silicone tank with low-iron glass? Hell yeah. Sound familiar anyone?

I wonder what the next trend will be, although I must say that if I had one of those old stainless-steel-frame tanks it would have a place of honor in my fishroom. :)

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I had a small 5 gallon antique framed aquarium that I replaced the glass in with acrylic. My measurements were off a bit so I had to trim the acrylic after purchase at work as I didn't have my own power tools. I never was able to get it to seal unfortunately and now I don't remember what I did with it. I have pictures on my unused FB account that I will try to get.
 

sir_keith

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@sir_keith, I totally want one of the old stainless steel frame tanks! High on my wish list.

Me too. My Dad had a 29 gallon ss-frame tank with a full stainless steel hood when I was a boy. Beautiful. Community tank with tetras, platys, etc.; a little piston-driven air pump (which required regular oiling) bubbling water through 'lift tubes' on little HOB filters full of 'glass wool.' Probably one tank volume filtered per day! It's amazing any of these fishes survived, but then, the bioload was pretty modest, as most 'ornamental fishes' at the time were tiny. White clouds, zebra danios, harlequin rasboras; that sort of thing. When I moved out (at 17) I set up a tank with Apisto's, and I've been keeping cichlids ever since. :)
 

lloyd378

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Me too. My Dad had a 29 gallon ss-frame tank with a full stainless steel hood when I was a boy. Beautiful. Community tank with tetras, platys, etc.; a little piston-driven air pump (which required regular oiling) bubbling water through 'lift tubes' on little HOB filters full of 'glass wool.' Probably one tank volume filtered per day! It's amazing any of these fishes survived, but then, the bioload was pretty modest, as most 'ornamental fishes' at the time were tiny. White clouds, zebra danios, harlequin rasboras; that sort of thing. When I moved out (at 17) I set up a tank with Apisto's, and I've been keeping cichlids ever since. :)

i love apistos ( and SS framed tanks too) but the one time I attempted them, I did them all wrong on the advice of a former hobbyist..... I went to aquarium co-op and bought two of each style they had....kept them in a 75g but I didn’t have the decor properly set and by the end of 6 months I was down to two hyper aggressive males and that was it.

Once my planted tank is established I may try them again in a different tank, but my priority is to attempt to get these plants growing!
 

sir_keith

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Yes, most people underestimate the difficulty of keeping Apisto's properly. When I moved from NJ to New Haven in the mid-70's I hooked up with a local hobbyist through the American Cichlid Association who had one of the most amazing fish rooms I have ever seen. It was in his (very warm) basement; nearly 100 heavily planted, ss-frame tanks housing a mind-boggling collection of Apisto's. This in the midst of the 'African Invasion.' I think he must have supplied most of New England with Apisto's!

It must be plant week; I have a shipment coming in in a few days... :D
 

fishguy1978

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Antique SS frame. Apisto's and ADA wood
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One of my planted tanks from NYC days. 40g Oceanic long hex.
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Right side is all Java Fern, left side is a crinum (I think). Same tank as above but rescaped. The branch went from spanning the tank to leaning against the back wall.
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sir_keith

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...i love apistos ( and SS framed tanks too) but the one time I attempted them, I did them all wrong on the advice of a former hobbyist..... I went to aquarium co-op and bought two of each style they had....kept them in a 75g but I didn’t have the decor properly set and by the end of 6 months I was down to two hyper aggressive males and that was it...

Most people underestimate the difficulty of keeping Apisto's properly. When I moved from NJ to New Haven in 1975, I hooked up with a fellow hobbyist through the American Cichlid Association who had one of the most amazing fish rooms I have ever seen. It was in his (very warm) basement, probably 70-80 stainless steel frame tanks, all heavily planted, containing a jaw-dropping collection of Apisto's, many newly-collected species that had not yet made it into the hobby. And this in the midst of the 'African Invasion'! I was going in the opposite direction at the time, and had just bought my first Tanganyikans! :whistle

It must be plant week: I have a shipment coming in a few days. :D
 

sir_keith

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Not even a full day in the 55g and the rainbows have spawned.:confused:

Cool. If you keep them happy they will spawn regularly, and they tend to be really good parents. This is the kind of fish that gets people hooked on cichlids! :)
 

DMD123

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They just needed a change in scenery! lol, congrats on the spawn.
 

fishguy1978

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Mixed up some weldon 40 and glued down the patches in the 260g. Sure wish I had it out in the garage. Holy cow that's some potent smelling stuff. I have the exhaust fan running too.
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