What did you do with your tank(s) today?

sir_keith

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That's awesome to hear about the pair bond. How picky are they about choosing a mate? LFD has sexed specimens but also similar sized unsexed juvies. So I'm not sure if I should pick out M/F's or start with a juvie group as one often does.
I've been thinking about this, trying to figure out the minimum number of fishes you might think about ordering. If you're just going for one breeding pair in your 40B, then I would consider ordering one male and 4 females. That way you would have a good chance of getting a mated pair, plus 3 extra females to occupy the rest of the tank, and occasionally provide distraction for the pair. There are other ways to do this as well.
 

cjag

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I've been thinking about this, trying to figure out the minimum number of fishes you might think about ordering. If you're just going for one breeding pair in your 40B, then I would consider ordering one male and 4 females. That way you would have a good chance of getting a mated pair, plus 3 extra females to occupy the rest of the tank, and occasionally provide distraction for the pair. There are other ways to do this as well.
Yup. That makes sense. Thanks for the insight. I'll start with one pair and see if they breed as readily as brichardi do.
 

sir_keith

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Yup. That makes sense. Thanks for the insight. I'll start with one pair and see if they breed as readily as brichardi do.
Oh yeah, set up the tank to their liking and feed them well, and you should have no problem getting fry from them. Frozen brine shrimp really helps get them into spawning condition. I don't remember how big/old they were when they first started spawning, but I don't think it took all that long. :thumbsup
 

sir_keith

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Are there particular varieties you like?
I know you're not asking me, but I'm going to chime in anyway, because this is one of my pet topics. The staples in my fish room are Ken's Ultra Intense Spirulina Flakes, Ken's Ultra Plankton/Krill/Spirulina Flakes, and New Life Spectrum Algae Max Pellets. My featherfins/sand sifters get frozen brine shrimp once a week or so, and my Tropheus colonies get large leaves of fresh Romaine lettuce once or twice a week. I do not tinker with this diet, because it works, and many Tanganyikans are sensitive not only to what you feed them, but how you feed them (for the featherfins, that means a little bit at a time). I also have 'fast days' for all my fishes at least 3-4x per month. I'm convinced that we tend to overfeed our fishes, and fat fishes are not healthy fishes. This may not apply to big cichlids, but many fishes are ill-equipped to deal with the abundant diets we provide them with in captivity.
 

DMD123

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I know you're not asking me, but I'm going to chime in anyway, because this is one of my pet topics. The staples in my fish room are Ken's Ultra Intense Spirulina Flakes, Ken's Ultra Plankton/Krill/Spirulina Flakes, and New Life Spectrum Algae Max Pellets. My featherfins/sand sifters get frozen brine shrimp once a week or so, and my Tropheus colonies get large leaves of fresh Romaine lettuce once or twice a week. I do not tinker with this diet, because it works, and many Tanganyikans are sensitive not only to what you feed them, but how you feed them (for the featherfins, that means a little bit at a time). I also have 'fast days' for all my fishes at least 3-4x per month. I'm convinced that we tend to overfeed our fishes, and fat fishes are not healthy fishes. This may not apply to big cichlids, but many fishes are ill-equipped to deal with the abundant diets we provide them with in captivity.
LOL, I love to hear what other fish keepers feed! I totally agree that aquarium fish can and do get overfed. I have resorted to measured out pill boxes for the 300 so that I am not heavy handed with the feeding. Plus its just a once a day feeding for these near adult fishes.

In the poly/bichir community I see some major fatties where they are feeding loads of raw tilapia and Hikari Massivore. Yes the fish are THICK but also very unhealthy looking. I actually only feed once or maybe twice a week for my bichirs. They look leaner like wild caught fish should look.

My only fish that get fed a bit heavy handed are growouts. But as they become sub-adult I usually start to change feeding methods.

So yes I do appreciate hearing from other experienced fish keepers what they feed.
 

fishguy1978

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Are there particular varieties you like?
I know you're not asking me, but I'm going to chime in anyway, because this is one of my pet topics. The staples in my fish room are Ken's Ultra Intense Spirulina Flakes, Ken's Ultra Plankton/Krill/Spirulina Flakes, and New Life Spectrum Algae Max Pellets. My featherfins/sand sifters get frozen brine shrimp once a week or so, and my Tropheus colonies get large leaves of fresh Romaine lettuce once or twice a week. I do not tinker with this diet, because it works, and many Tanganyikans are sensitive not only to what you feed them, but how you feed them (for the featherfins, that means a little bit at a time). I also have 'fast days' for all my fishes at least 3-4x per month. I'm convinced that we tend to overfeed our fishes, and fat fishes are not healthy fishes. This may not apply to big cichlids, but many fishes are ill-equipped to deal with the abundant diets we provide them with in captivity.
I order the premium krill pellets 3mm, premium cichlid pellet 1.5mm, and green protein fry pellet .5mm. I have fed flakes before and do when given to me but I prefer pellets as they don't turn into dust in the container.
 

sir_keith

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I order the premium krill pellets 3mm, premium cichlid pellet 1.5mm, and green protein fry pellet .5mm. I have fed flakes before and do when given to me but I prefer pellets as they don't turn into dust in the container.
That's true; I can't tell you how many bags of flake-food-dust I have in my supply closet. There are never going to be enough fry to get rid of all that stuff!

That said, I do not like pellets, except for large fishes. Grazers and foragers never encounter such a solid, concentrated food mass in nature, and many of them have a difficult time digesting such things. All of my fishes, whether strict herbivores or omnivores, have really long GI tracts, and are very sensitive to digestive overloading. Flakes are more gentle, and the only way to go with such fishes. I learned this the hard way. :whistle
 

DMD123

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Stopped at Aquarium Paradise on the way home and got some Hikari frozen krill cubes. This is little ‘sticks’ of krill meat instead of the whole krill. I got a good response from two of the trimac who ate up heartily but the others were not taking to the new food. I will feed some brine shrimp also to make sure the tank is fed.
 

fishguy1978

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That's true; I can't tell you how many bags of flake-food-dust I have in my supply closet. There are never going to be enough fry to get rid of all that stuff!

That said, I do not like pellets, except for large fishes. Grazers and foragers never encounter such a solid, concentrated food mass in nature, and many of them have a difficult time digesting such things. All of my fishes, whether strict herbivores or omnivores, have really long GI tracts, and are very sensitive to digestive overloading. Flakes are more gentle, and the only way to go with such fishes. I learned this the hard way. :whistle
I soak the 5-6mm plus sized Ken's krill pellets before feeding. I will probably have to do the same with the smaller ones. They are a very dense pellet.
 

DMD123

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Being back at work again has proven to add a challenge to my fishkeeping.

Today I figured out that I could feed the growout trimacs some frozen krill before I left for work. There is enough natural light for them to see, to be able to eat. Plus they can forage when lights do come on. I can then get a second feeding in when I get home. Not as concerned with all my larger sub-adult fish but I feel the growouts need their food. Water changes are a bit more spread out with focus on a tank here and there as opposed to all at once. But still manage to usually get a minimum of two water changes per week on all tanks and a few extra on the growouts.
 
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