Peacock Gudgeon Fry

clifford

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I've been waiting a while, but my colony of 8 Peacock Gudgeons has finally kicked into high gear. I didn't know they were reproducing until I pulled some plants out of the tank, and inadvertently disturbed one of the male's nests. The others immediately started pecking up the defenseless newly hatched fry, and I panicked and just scooped my hands into the tank-- saving 13. :D

That evening I decided I'd check the other pvc tube caves, and sure enough, there were three large nests of newly hatched fry to be harvested. (not yet free swimming, still "stuck" to the wall of the tube)

I removed them to a separate rearing container, and the next morning there were several hundred free swimming fry. When I got home that evening I went to check on them, and noticed there seemed to be significantly less in the container! I re-surveyed the caves-- and sure enough, one of the adult males had hitch-hiked along with the fry. :cry: Rookie mistake on my part, I should have checked more carefully. There are still around 100 left, so plenty for a first batch. I feed the adults fairly heavily, so I should be able to pull around 100 nearly every weekend. From my experience from the last colony I had, if I pull them all on a Sunday, there are usually free-swimming fry out of the tubes on Monday after work, and the tubes are empty by Wednesday. (unless the male was guarding several spawns from a few days apart).

Anyway, here's how beautiful my fry containers look. Green water, floating plants, a zillion microworms, and some cyclops/daphnia. Not much of a display, but it's fun to watch them darting around!



In about 9 months, they'll be just like the adults. Pretty fun fish, if you're looking for something new. The adults are as colorful as killies (except the females are pretty too!), and the males square off like bettas do for spawning areas-- although they usually just do a lot of dancing, and not as much fin ripping. Very cool to watch. When adult males are "fighting" they can move around the tank pacing each other faster than you can see.
 

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jettej

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Congrats clifford. I actually just got a couple pair of adult p. Gudgeons from the store last thurs. and happy with them. I feed them 3x a day of flakes(am,noon,pm) and 2x a day of bloodworms (am,pm) of course they are sharing it with a couple glofish and a couple blue dwarf gouramis. Left a fair amount of hiding spots and caves. But every fish gets along quite good. Now the problem is i only got 1 tank running. And just wondering if i should start a 10 gal fry tank or just get a bucket and put heater and thermometer and maybe a underwater filter...
 

clifford

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Pulled my third batch of fry today, and I think I have around 300 of them in grow-out tanks now. Time will tell how many make it, as these start about as small as my killifish fry. The area of that photo is around 2"x3".

If they can make it past a week or so of infusoria, they can start to handle micro-worms and baby daphnia (now I wish I hadn't let my moina culture bite it)...and from there it gets a lot easier. They'll start to nibble at flake at around a month. Nine months to maturity feels like a long way away, but I suppose if things go well at least I'll have a lot of them. :shock:
 

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clifford

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I missed this as I haven't had time to hit the forums in a bit. This is one of my favorite species of fish, and it sounds like yours are well pampered! They can be pretty nippy if you aren't used to them, but I've found as long as they have a small rocky spot in the tank with a few tubes/caves, they'll leave everyone else alone. Dark colored substrate/stone really makes their colors pop.

If you want to keep the babies, everything I've experienced is pretty consistent. About a week to a week and a half after you see a male occupying a cave, you can tempt him out with food dropped in front of the cave, and pull it to a separate container. It doesn't really have to be a full time tank, a $1 sweater box with a $4 clip on light (lighting either a CF or LED bulb-- ~<$6 at home depot) is plenty to keep the fry going if you have some plants to throw in. I think Microworms and daphnia help survival rates, but you could do most of that work with infusoria in a few small yogurt (etc) containers outside to collect it. It sounds like you're pretty actively caring for them, so that's an easy way to get the right sized food for free. In a few days there are some free swimming, in a few more days everyone is out and the tubes can be put back with the parents.

I don't bother to heat the fry bins (or the 10 gallon I now have set up for them). They've done fine so far at room temp. I was worried about my last batch as I pulled them a little early, but even the ones that looked dead lived. Here is a shot of 4 "huggers" (eggs hatched, but not moving yet...they just kind of stick where they land) that I pulled from my rearing bin to a jar lid because I thought they were dead and might create conditions that would hurt the rest. They've grown tails just fine, and have absorbed a lot of their egg sacs. Glad I didn't throw them away...



jettej said:
Congrats clifford. I actually just got a couple pair of adult p. Gudgeons from the store last thurs. and happy with them. I feed them 3x a day of flakes(am,noon,pm) and 2x a day of bloodworms (am,pm) of course they are sharing it with a couple glofish and a couple blue dwarf gouramis. Left a fair amount of hiding spots and caves. But every fish gets along quite good. Now the problem is i only got 1 tank running. And just wondering if i should start a 10 gal fry tank or just get a bucket and put heater and thermometer and maybe a underwater filter...
 

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jettej

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Well its ok, so I end up setting up my 10 gallon bare bottom fry tank. It currently have one of my dwarf gouramis occupying the tank to get the water param. Leveled out he is doing great btw. I have a huge spongefilter that i used and also a mopani wood. I do not have any plants because all my plants are rooted. I might have to buy some java moss when i get a chance to visit my lfs. And i bought another female so now i got 1 male (i think) and the rest are female (4). My feeding did change a little bit. So the flakes is mixed everytime. But their main course diet are AM&PM are mysis shrimp(cut into small pieces) and at noon are the yummy bloodworms. My p. Gudgeons are acting weird btw. They are always in the middle part of the tank. I have a 15 gallon colum so yeah its height is higher than the length.

I do not have any infusoria cultured. Do you have any idea where i can get a batch if them to start on? I'm also looking for some daphnia culture so i can reproduce them.
 

clifford

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A few photos of adults... Kind of hard to focus well with an iphone, but it gives you the idea.
 

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Hefateus

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Infusoria can be easily cultured by putting a piece of lettuce in some tank water on a sunny window sill. Throw in an algae tab for food and it will be going in no time. Look for some guides online and you should have no problem.
 
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